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Laellius

France
52 Posts

Posted - 02 Mar 2007 :  05:14:12  


Dear all,

I was wondering what was meant exactly by the word "Μνημοσύνης" in Orphica. Is it in some instance similar to an intuitive feeling, the intuition of being Heaven's child, yet having lost sight of this fact?

Best regards,

Laellius.


 

George

Greece
615 Posts

Posted - 03 Mar 2007 :  07:41:54  

 

If these excerpts are to be interpreted literally, yours, I think, would be the only possible meaning. But a literal interpretation is impossible, if spiritual life is not borne magically or mechanically. In my opinion, there is here a symbolical expression of the current religious feeling and knowledge, that salvation presupposes memory, becoming what we are, as Aeschylus put it, that is godly. This can not be a guess, or a momentary intuition, but certain, alive, and perfect knowledge, as is also evident by the Homeric hymn to Μνημοσύνη. Memory is not a faculty of the human organism, but a Goddess, married to Zeus and mother to the Mouses, that is Goddess-mothers of human-godly virtues. Μνημοσύνη is the fullness of Grace descending upon the awakened man, perfecting one’s familiarity with the truth. Here is the text of the Homeric hymn (in Greek):

Μνημοσύνην καλέω, Ζηνὸς σύλλεκτρον, ἄνασσαν ἣ Μούσας τέκνωσ᾽ ἱεράς, ὁσίας, λιγυφώνους ἐκτὸς ἐοῦσα κακῆς λήθης βλαψίφρονος αἰεί πάντα νόον συνέχουσα βροτῶν ψυχαῖσι σύνοικον εὐδύνατον κρατερὸν θνητῶν αὔξουσα λογισμόν ἡδυτάτη, φιλάγρυπνος ὑπομνήσκουσά τε πάντα, ὧν ἂν ἕκαστος ἀεὶ στέρνοις γνώμην κατ<ά>θηται οὔτι παρεκβαίνουσ᾽, ἐπεγείρουσα φρένα πᾶσιν ἀλλά, μάκαιρα θεά, μύσταις μνήμην ἐπέγειρ εὐιέρου τελετῆς, λήθην δ᾽ ἀπὸ τῶν<δ᾽> ἀπόπεμπε.

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Laellius

France
52 Posts

Posted - 05 Mar 2007 :  16:00:02  

 

Thank you, it does make a difference indeed! Is this fulleness of Grace in any way similar to what www.ellopos.net/elpenor/greek-texts/fathers/origen/default.asp" target="_blank">Origen called "the divine perception which the blessed man only knows how to discover," this blessed man then "laying hold on the Logos by faith, so that a healing effluence from it comes upon [him]?" I am wondering, is the faith which we have a "great thirst," in a certain sense, like the one Orphica is perishing from?

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